waffle

Why OpenID?

To emphasize a point from the previous post: Waffle now only accepts comments from people with an OpenID.

There are two major reasons why. The first is simply that OpenID is exactly the kind of standard I want to succeed – open, decentralized, secure, free and providing a useful function. The second reason is providing a better experience for people leaving comments.

You had to leave your email address and fill out a simultaneously intelligence-insulting and spam-robot-busting math question. Now you just have to login with an OpenID – and an OpenID simultaneously makes sure that you can stay anonymous if you want to and that no one else can impersonate you, even if they fake your name.

If getting an OpenID was hard or cost money, I would not do this. However, many of you already have OpenIDs, there are excellent fast services for getting free OpenIDs (including multiple ‘personas’) and there are excellent free services for hosting your own OpenID server and as many accounts as you want.

Don’t see using OpenID here as registering a magical ‘Waffle account’. OpenID will be everywhere within a year, mark my words, and you’ll be able to reuse your account everywhere without relying on any specific third party service.

So in conclusion, my current opinion on OpenID on Waffle is that I didn’t go OpenID-only without a reason. I’ve listed my arguments. If you want me to open up “accountless” commenting again, either counter the arguments I’ve already laid out, or present sides of the argument I haven’t even thought about.

Comments [+]

  1. I think it’s about time I investigated doing OpenID for my comments. Was it particularly complicated to setup?

    By pftqg · 2007.03.14 21:04

  2. Not very complicated at all. For best results you’ll have to do some template diddling and certainly deactivating of plugins that insert other spam checks.

    On the whole, it’s very easy to install. It creates the new database tables as needed (no ‘install’ phase, it just does it) and so on.

    By Jesper · 2007.03.14 21:11

  3. I love this idea.

    I’m considering a similar approach — require OpenID if you want to leave a comment with your URL and/or use HTML. Other commenters can leave plain-text name and message only.

    By John Zeratsky · 2007.03.15 21:26

  4. Except, hmm… how can I get this to show my name (John Zeratsky) instead of my URL?

    By John Zeratsky · 2007.03.15 22:31

  5. Try logging in and changing your name.

    Uncovering the name is apparently done through the OpenID authentication process – I’m not sure if there’s an error on the OpenID server’s end or in the OpenID plugin I’m using. Thanks to Patrick’s nickname (’PFTQG’) showing up correctly above, I can only assume that it works at least some of the time or with some servers. I’ll have to look into it.

    By Jesper · 2007.03.15 22:59

  6. I’ve implemented OpenID for comments on my blog now – I use SimpleLog rather than WordPress, so I wrote my own stuff on top the awesome ruby-openid gem. I decided to just make it easy on myself and require sign in, like here. I figure with AOL doing OpenID pretty much everyone I know has an OpenID now. I’m using the MyOpenID affiliate system to provide an easy way for people without one to signup and end up back on my blog once they’re finished.

    John Zeratsky: above the comment entry box it says “Logged in as [you]“, click [you] and it should let you edit your wordpress profile.

    By pftqg · 2007.03.15 22:59

  7. Okay, I plugged in my name and changed the “Display Name Publicly As” option. Apparently it doesn’t apply to previous comments. Oh well.

    By John Zeratsky · 2007.03.15 23:16

  8. I changed it for you.

    This will obviously be better when it’s integrated right into Wordpress from the start, even though the plugin looks fairly natural.

    By Jesper · 2007.03.15 23:24

  9. Thanks! It’s pretty well integrated as-is.

    By John Zeratsky · 2007.03.16 01:58

  10. Nice implementation and indeed a valuable stuff. I’ll be giving this a try on my blog.

    By Ozh · 2007.08.31 09:05

  11. I am the affiliate coordinator over at Vidoop and just wanted to mention that we have an affiliate program as well. It is a simple sign up process and is basically the same as myopenid.com’s affiliate sign up. Another point to make is that offering users a few recommendations to a few “good” OIP’s is good practice and let’s them know you are helping them select a reputable OIP. The sign up is at affiliates.vidoop.com

    By Halve · 2007.11.14 18:56

  12. OpenID According to Dave @ YouTube

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcmY8Pk-qEk

    By Halve · 2007.12.26 23:16

Leave a comment

Your e-mail address is never shown. If you type a line break in the comment, it will show up as a line break (naturally). The following HTML is allowed: <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q cite=""> <strike> <strong>

(required)

(required)


Please note: Your comment will not show up at once. Unless you're spamming or being abusive, you have nothing to worry about. (Read the full policy.)